Pain Management in Japan

I’m talking with Bobby, a fellow American who suffers from chronic pain

which seems to be the side effect of a vaccine.That same vaccine was

once MANDATORY for all new immigrants into the U.S but has since

been removed. If you experience side effects from a vaccine

administered in the U.S., you can file a legal claim with the VICP,

and they will pay all of your legal fees whether you win or lose the case.  

Common side effects of the vaccine he took include injection

site reactions (pain, swelling,redness, bruising, or itching),

fever, headache, dizziness, tiredness, nausea,vomiting, diarrhea,

sleep problems (insomnia), runny or stuffy nose, sore throat,cough,

tooth pain, or joint or muscle pain.  He has been diagnosed with

arthritis throughout his entire body and he is not even 35 years old.  

We are both currently living in Japan and discussing pain management.  

He takes Percocet in the U.S and has brought a supply to Japan with him.

 (He doesn’t live in Japan, only a few months at a time, so he can bring

enough to take before he goes back to get refills for a few months.)  

Have you tried Kratom or CBDs for your pain?  It seems like it

might be a good fit for you.

I tried it in the U.S

I couldn’t tell if it did much

But it’s in the opiate family

So I didn’t want to take it and my Percocet, and when I tried to take

it instead of my Percocet it wasn’t enough

You’ve also got to take tons of it as powder to get it to be effective

My friend tried it too as a stimulant

She was throwing up it was terrible - she started throwing up and she

tried to keep taking it but finally as she threw up repetitively she had to stop

I think I talked to my pain doc about it and they said it’s basically just a different opiate

So...

I prefer to have my opiate use managed by a health professional

I also tried cbd and thc but by myself I couldn’t get it to touch my pain, but I did

find a doc who can oversee it, so now that my legal case has concluded when I

get back to the US I will be looking into it more.

I agree that when I have certain types of physical pain, THC doesn’t do much except

deal with the symptoms in your head that you have outside of the actual acute pain

 (such as anxiety/depression/mood elevation), but I think when you have intense

physical pain you really know when you need something stronger.

I’m mostly worried about my doctor and my future ability to get opiates here

If I lose that chance it’ll dramatically shorten the time I can stay in japan since

my doctor in the us can’t give me too long of a supply because of the war on

opiates in the U.S.  I’m fucked from both sides but unfortunately not in a

pleasant way lol

I tried Mdma for my arthritis

It helped but then when the effect wore off my body crashed - it helped not

just as a wonderful high, but because it knocks down your immune system

for a while.  I could take it but I’ll feel terrible for two days after, and then I’ll

feel a little better for a little while, and then worse...

I didn't like Percocet actually, or I probably would have asked you for one, he he,

but that would be kind of cruel since you need them and I don’t, but i’m sure I

would have asked anyway being who I am and that drugs in Japan are so hard

to come by.

Why don’t u like Percocet? When and how long did u take it? In the US I don’t know

that kratom would be very useful for me because it would be like I had to pay for my

opiate prescription out of pocket, Kratom isn’t a metaphorical opiate it’s an actual opiate.

I tried percs for recreational use only, Also oxy made me hug a toilet after getting really

short of breath and dizzy..  I take one pill like someone takes MDMA or ecstasy.

I’m not prone to addiction because I’m not attracted to super addictive substances

and when I do them, I seem to be able to stop myself when I start feeling shitty instead

of seek out more.  I do like Valium, though.

Yes it did the same for me for almost a year

I had to take an anti nausea medicine

But now I think my tolerance is high enough or something that it’s basically like

taking Tylenol for me or something

The mental effect is super subtle but the effect on my pain is very significant

Do u know what I think is the most interesting part of opiates? It makes it hard for me to cum

mdma too, its impossible for me to cum, feels great but no possible orgasm

you know its great that your friend is distilling the kratom, because it's super hard to take as a powder

i talked to my pain doctor yesterday so she could help me understand the differences

between percocet and oxycotin, because its oxycotin that i was able to get in japan - i might

be able to get normal oxycodone but they may have to order it or something special - complicated -

they work very differently because oxycotin is extended release - so i'm very worried that I

won't be able to get to the right dose, but we will see how it goes.

Japan has social insurance for residents and legal visa holders, but you are a tourist, so

it must cost you a fortune.

it was $250 for two weeks, it was expensive.  i had a prescription for a whole month but reduced

it to two weeks to make it more affordable, not a great situation for me, I may be in a lot of pain,

but I shouldn't experience withdrawal so that’s good

Does the fear of withdrawal plague you? It feels like a cold right?

i think the withdrawal would be very severe, sometimes when i don't take my medicine for a

while, my entire legs, both of them, begin to ache, like a restless leg syndrome kind of thing

i guess that would be a first sign - but i don't know much about the withdrawal, i don't really

think about it since i don't feel like I should be facing it anytime too soon

i think if i want to stop taking it ill do a gradual ween off and try to avoid any real

withdrawal symptoms

the biggest problem i believe would be dealing with the pain from my arthritis -

i'm not worried about withdrawal, im worried about living with my pain with no relief at all..

it never goes away, but at least i can somewhat function when I take enough medicine

if i keep taking the pills - i still feel some pain, but even with flares all over i can walk around and

still live a pretty good life.